Former Obama administration Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes admitted that Joe Biden is already working with foreign leaders, during an interview with MSNBC on Monday.

“Foreign leaders are already having phone calls with Joe Biden, talking about the agenda they’re going to pursue January 20th to ensure as seamless a transition as possible,” said Rhodes. “The center of political gravity in this country and the world is shifting to Joe Biden.”

After Donald Trump won the election in 2016, he named Gen. Michael Flynn to be his National Security Advisor in both the transition and the new administration. Flynn had previously served as President Obama’s Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

In 2017, Flynn was accused by the Obama administration of violating the Logan Act by having communications with foreign leaders before Trump was sworn in as president. Flynn resigned soon after Trump took office in 2017.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that criminalizes private citizens who attempt to intervene without authorization in disputes or controversies between the United States and foreign governments.

The conversations between Biden and foreign leaders revealed by Rhodes could potentially be violations of the Logan Act for the same reason Flynn was accused.

During his interview Tuesday, Rhodes spoke about Biden’s seamless transition into the White House and said the Trump administration is in for a ‘rude awakening.’

“If that reality hasn’t sunk in yet for some people in the White House, it will sink in when they have to leave on January 20th,” he concluded.